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Poster: Jim F Date: Jun 2, 2010 12:05am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Calling all Dark Star experts

Ha yeah I'm not a very regular poster here. But I've been reading this forum and keeping up with you crazies for years haha. Pretty much ever since the GD project began here. I'm highly opinionated but for some reason just rarely ramble much here. :)

I'm an avid collector of 1966-1980, and have at least one source for every show in those years, give or take one or two here and there. I've been seriously collecting since the late 90's and pretty much have the first 15 years of setlists in my Deadbase memorized lol. I'm just as obssessive and neurotic when it comes to collecting and listening to this music as all you regular posters, I just don't comment all that much is all. But when I do read/post, I really feel at home here. There aren't that many places where I can go and make a comment about some 30 second piece of some random jam and have 20 people all know exactly what I'm talking about haha.


Anywho, I haven't listened to 3/23/72 in some time, I think it was those last few minutes that had me thinking it wasn't that "out there." The thematic jam at the end always reminded me of that beautiful jam near the end of 9/21. I don't recall there being that much craziness in that Dark Star. Darnitall I guess now I gotta go pull it out! :-P

Also, basically everything I wanted to say in this thread, you said perfectly right here...I couldn't phrase it any better...


"Anyway, it is hard to recommend a Dark Star to someone who doesn't like feedback or space....so that pretty much takes care of my own favorite versions! And it basically rules out late '73/74. But it does make '71 the year to point to.

I don't think grendel would like 3/23/72 much, as it's full of mayhem & discordancy - although the last few minutes are quite appealing.

It does make sense to recommend the versions closest to 10/25/69 - but within the guidelines, late '69 also has some big 'space' sections in the Stars, and it's hard to say how much space it takes to scare off grendel... 11/2 is the greatest of that era in any case; 11/7 may not be the greatest, but I thought it was a lot of fun.
In late '69 and 1970, there's quite a bit of variety in how they tackle the space & following themes - though they have a smaller bag of tricks than in later years, it still comes out different every time! But by '72, the Star jams are more unpredictable, you don't know what might be coming next..."

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Poster: midnightcarousel Date: Jun 2, 2010 11:28am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Calling all Dark Star experts

Keep posting, dude! You are clearly a good writer and seem to have a whole lot of insight and opinions that we'd all like to hear about.

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Poster: Jim F Date: Jun 5, 2010 2:29am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Calling all Dark Star experts

If you meant me, well thank ya very much. I'm no Light Into Ashes, but I've always really enjoyed writing show reviews and my personal observations. I used to follow a local GD tribute around here and record their weekly house gig every week and write reviews to go along with my recordings.